Hatred is back on Steam Greenlight

The game Hatred was taken off Steam Greenlight earlier and now seems to be back onto the platform. It was taken off it seems due to the content found within the game, an ultra-violent, genocide crusade that gets to the point of simply saying this guy just wants to kill people. (I wrote about it getting taken off Steam Greenlight here.)

According to Destructive Creations, Valve co-founder Gabe Newell (Gaben, the man, the legend…I’ll stop now) apologized to the developer for the game being removed from Steam Greenlight. The developer of Hatred published the following email from Newell to Destructive Creations creative director Jaroslaw Zielinski on Facebook. (Source: Polygon)

Hi, Jaroslaw.

Yesterday I heard that we were taking Hatred down from Greenlight. Since I wasn’t up to speed, I asked around internally to find out why we had done that. It turns out that it wasn’t a good decision, and we’ll be putting Hatred back up. My apologies to you and your team. Steam is about creating tools for content creators and customers.

Good luck with your game.

Gabe

I’m extremely glad that Hatred was put back onto Steam Greenlight, despite my lack of interest in playing the game. The game has no reason to not be allowed onto the platform and has a right to be played by others on the largest platform for PC games. I’m glad that Steam/Valve/Gaben made a change here and allowed this game to have an opportunity to be played for those who want to play it (and plenty of people are interested in the game, there is a market for it).

I was afraid that Steam was going to fall into the trap of being “politically correct” (whatever that means) or catering to the overly “offended”(whatever that means) culture or something of that sorts and I’m glad that they did not. I don’t want developers/publishers to cater to a culture based upon subjectively being “offended” by video games. That is a type of world I don’t want to live in, vote with your wallets and stop being offended.

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Controversial Hatred gets pulled off of Steam Greenlight by Valve

The game, Hatred, developed by Polish studio Destructive Creations hit Steam Greenlight yesterday but was quickly pulled off by Valve. “Based on what we’ve seen on Greenlight we would not publish Hatred on Steam,” Valve’s Doug Lombardi said in an email to Polygon (Source). “As such we’ll be taking it down.

Hatred was unveiled in October and is essentially a playable genocide crusade, the game cuts straight to the point: this guy you’re playing as wants to kill people for the sake of killing people.

Destruction Creations creative director Jaroslaw Zielinski made an announcement saying, “If you are a diehard Hatred fan then this is one of the most important news for you this year! Now YOU can vote and decide to bring the game to one of the most popular gaming platforms! Don’t just wait until it happens. Tell your friends about it and let their friends tell their friends, so the news will spread everywhere!”

Destructive Creations also issued a state on Hatred’s removal from Steam Greenlight:

Dear Hatred Fans,

As you know today we’ve launched our Steam Greenlight campaign for Hatred. Unfortunately after couple of hours Steam shut it down giving the below as reasons behind their decision:

“We wanted you guys to know that based on what we see on Greenlight we would not publish Hatred on Steam. As such we’ll be taking it down.”

Even though games like Manhunt or Postal are still available on Steam we of course fully respect Valve’s decision, as they have the right to do so. In the same time we want to assure you that this won’t in any way impact the game’s development, game’s vision or gameplay features we’re aiming for. The game is still to be released in Q2 2015 as planned.

Moreover we don’t treat this as a failure because yet again this showed us a huge community support we’re totally overwhelmed with. After only a couple of hours Greenlight campaign being live, Hatred gathered 13,148 up votes and ended up on a #7 on Top 100 list.

This is the best proof for us that there are diehard Hatred fans out there, waiting for this game to be released. And that we need to keep going to deliver them a game that offers exciting and challenging gameplay.

The whole situation only pushes us forward to go against any adversity and not to give up. It also makes us want to provide our fans Hatred pre-orders sooner, as many of you have asked for them.

At the end of the day you, gamers will judge if we were able to do a game that’s simply fun to play.

-Destructive Creations Team

I wrote an opinion piece on Hatred a month or so ago that you can read here and I do have a fairly strong opinion on my thoughts on the game: who cares?

Let’s get something straight; Valve has the right to not allow Hatred onto their platform. That is their decision and nobody can stop them. They are a business making the choice they want to make. Do I agree with the choice? Hell no. There are games just as stupidly violent and almost just as direct as Hatred and nobody seems to care about those games. I think this decision is incredibly hypocritical of Valve to make.

I was never planning on playing Hatred and I still don’t plan to play Hatred, but I have no right to block free speech, especially for a dumb video game that just gets to the point and you just kill stuff (like most games already on the market except they have a “story”). The anger toward this game still feels like to me a result of our politically correct culture and fear of what this game could do toward the perception of video games. I don’t care. If you aren’t on the bandwagon of video games and are offended by violence in them, you’ll never play games and just continue to get offended or you’ll just selectively get offended by games like Hatred, which is silly and hypocritical.

If I was running Valve/Steam/Whatever, I would one hundred percent allow Hatred on my platform. There is a market for Hatred. People want to play the game and people should be able to buy that product on the platform, but I guess Valve’s decision is to just selectively decide what is offensive (or it’s a case of Valve being afraid of our politically correct culture, which is very much a factor I’m sure was considered).

Again, I support Valve’s decision at the same time (in the sense that they are allowed to do it). I just find it incredibly hypocritical and silly censorship for no reason other than a decision made out of fear. Just let people play the games they want, let people have freedom of speech, and let people vote with their wallets if they want to play Hatred. Besides, if we become offended by one game, what happens next?

What do you think of Valve’s decision? What do you think of Hatred in general?

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Take-Two CEO Karl Slatoff speaks out against GTA V petition

Take-Two chairman and CEO Karl Slatoff spoke at the BMO Capital Markets 2014 Technology & Digital Media Conference and claimed that people who find individual pieces of content offensive should simply not buy the product. He stated, “it’s one thing for someone to not want to buy a piece of content, which is completely understandable.” “And that’s really the solution. If you don’t like it and it’s offensive to you, then you don’t buy it.

A petition from women who previously experienced sexual violence and violence in the sex industry, stated that Grand Theft Auto 5 “makes a game of bashing, killing and horrific violence against women” and “links sexual arousal and violence.” The petition has garnered almost 50,000 signatures and led to Target and K-Mart in Australia from pulling GTA5 from their shelves.

Slatoff argues even further by saying, “for a person or a group of people to try to make that decision for millions of people… We have 34 million people who brought Grand Theft Auto, and if these folks had their way, none of those people would be able to buy Grand Theft Auto.” “And that really just flies in the face of everything that free society is based on. It’s the freedom of expression, and to try to squelch that is a dangerous and slippery slope to go down.” (Source: Polygon)

I agree with every single word Karl Slatoff says, I wouldn’t change a single word. The fact of that matter is, no one should be able to stop a piece of art from hitting the shelves of a store, I don’t care how much you are “offended” by a video game. People have every right to make a petition but said petition shouldn’t be allowed to stop a game from being sold, even if it is deemed “offensive.”

I’m not even a huge fan of Grand Theft Auto (which has nothing to do with being offended by the game, I’m not. I more so just don’t enjoy playing the games very much because they aren’t fun to me) but I will defend it being on the shelves wholeheartedly. We live in this strange, almost absurd politically correct culture that is focused on being offended by everything simply because it hurts the “feelings” of someone.

I wrote a piece on the game Hatred (a game people were also offended by) a few weeks back (which you can read here) and I have the same position there that I do here. I simply don’t care if people find a video game offensive because video games aren’t the cause of this violence toward women or violence in general; you have to be a fool to think so. People who go and violently hurt people have a problem that is inherently in them that needs fixing, it isn’t from playing a video game. It’s a video game. It’s fake. It isn’t real. It’s meant to be fun. Are you to tell me that all of the people who are beating up women in GTA (or…and this is crazy and won’t fit the narrative of the petition, YOU CAN BEAT UP ANYONE IN THE GAME) are going to go and beat up and be violent toward everyone? If we take one game away from people, what’s to stop them from taking more games away from people? Should we take a piece of art like The Last of Us off shelves because (spoilers) Ellie is almost raped by David? Or are we just going to not be allowed to play anything anymore that hurts the feelings of others?

What are your thoughts on this topic? Should we ever take a game off the shelves? Should we defend the free speech of the video games industry? Has any game ever pushed the envelope too far for you?

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On Hatred: Why are gamers offended by it?

Hatred. It’s a game. And it’s coming out. And you kill things in it. And apparently that is bad because there isn’t a justification for that killing. Why is that suddenly a problem? Is it a problem? Personally, I don’t think so. I realize I’m a bit late to be formally commenting on Hatred, considering the trailer came out a couple weeks ago, but I still think it’s worth discussing regardless.

The trailer is essentially a complete psychopath going on a “genocide crusade,” killing people for absolutely no reason and he does not care if he dies either (as most psychopaths usually don’t care). It appears to be a top-down shooter of sorts. Hell, it might not even be good; amongst the anger people feel about the game, it could just be a generic top-down shooter that isn’t even memorable. Is this trailer using shock value in order to get attention? Absolutely. But here’s a thought, the people who are complaining about it and are angry about it and are talking about it loudly, aren’t you just helping this game get exactly what it wants? You could just, I don’t know, ignore the game? Maybe I’m crazy, but that seems to make the most sense to me. I’m personally commenting on the game because I’m not offended by the game whatsoever.

Why exactly am I not offended by the game? Well, have you ever played GTA and enjoyed shooting civilians? Or played Call of Duty and just enjoyed shooting at stuff? Or hey, played Uncharted where a guy murders plenty of people because he is the “hero?” I mean come on, why is this game even an issue with people? You are already doing exactly what this game expresses in other games! Is the concept slightly different by outright saying, “this is a game where the main character is a crazy psychopathic murderer who is killing for the sake of killing?” Yes, yes it is. But should we really care? I don’t think so. We’ve played so many games already where we senselessly murder people, as I already mentioned. But why is everyone so riled up about this anyhow?

Well, time to get political! Unfortunately, we live in this world where most things are deemed “politically incorrect” or “offensive,” (whatever that even means) so all the people who get offended by stupid garbage all the time are going to get offended by Hatred, but will willing defend GTA or Uncharted to the people who think all video games are “violent.” It’s extremely hypocritical and the excuse is, “but those games have stories!” Oh who cares? First off, GTA’s story isn’t exactly…umm…that great. It isn’t. It’s mostly stupid and over the top. All right, Uncharted has more of a story but regardless; the guy is still murdering 1,000s of people in his journey for treasure or something. But apparently the game where it is willing to skip the bullshit and just outright say, “this game is about murdering people…virtually,” is “offensive.” It’s silly and petty and a really crappy and useless argument without much basis. It’s being offended for the sake of being offended. Play Hatred. Don’t play Hatred. Ignore Hatred. Get angry about Hatred. I don’t care. I’m not going to play it simply because I don’t really care to play it, not because I’m super offended by a fucking video game.

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